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03-06-2010, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ronn  if they had those rules here in nh,wmi, there would be 6 bucks taken a season. they just don't grow it here. | Ronn, you means they are actually shooting MORE than 6 bucks in NH in a season. Wow, things must have improved since I hunted in that part of the country!    |
03-06-2010, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by onehorse | yup almost in the triple digits |
03-06-2010, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hunting Man I'm glad not everyone goes after the really big boys might be too much pressure on them and a lot of unhappy hunters. | I've had seasons with no harvest but never had been upset about it. I not only enjoy having a successful season but I enjoy the great comradery with my hunting group!!
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03-07-2010, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ronn yup almost in the triple digits | Seems to me you are seeing a few of those each year. Something I preached must have rubbed off. One thing is for sure you will never have big bucks if you keep shooting the little ones. Ronn you may not have monsters up there but I've seen pics from your camera of some pretty darn nice ones-----Every Year!! No matter where you are in the country it would be impossible to convince me to shoot a buck before his time. With all of those does running around there is no reason too.
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03-07-2010, 12:13 PM
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yea there are some nice ones. but the pics of the bigger older deer, 4.5 years old, and still won't make p&y or do just barely. we just don't have the high quality foods which is part of the reason for the high % of winter kill. nh is 83% forest. now that doesn't mean its 17% field. most of the balance is town or city. it just shows how different parts of the country have different issues to deal with. in states with lots of posted land that can not be hunted think about the number of sanctuaries there are that allow deer to reach a ripe old age. the down side of these areas is they also tend to be over populated with deer which also restricts a bucks full potential. age, food, and genetics, take out one part and the chances of a buck reaching their full potential is lessened dramatically.
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03-07-2010, 04:30 PM
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Anymore I'm not sure what works? In PA where they instituted the 3-4 pt restrictions have netted mixed results. First in the immediate short term we started to see more multiple point bucks, then they shot the heck out of the does and every hunter in the woods is shooting the barely legal bucks so how do you get the really big bucks? PA is a state that gets extreemly heavily hunted and now some 7 years later... we are seeing so few deer that some are looking to find new hunting grounds. In the early years 1970's we would see 20-40- deer per day of rifle season but low grade bucks, now 2-3 deer all week and very few bucks are taken/seen. Something has gone haywire and I'm still uncertain of what to do. I think all this deer management stuff better be well thought out or bad things will happen and it takes many years to correct. I'm all for fewer deer but quality racks, but something went to far????
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03-07-2010, 05:28 PM
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There is no doubt in my mind that hunting in many areas is getting tougher. You really have to be on top of your game to keep your productivity up as a hunter. This year twice I went out without seeing a single deer. My problem is the same as many others----- Trespassers. It took hours of covering ground and reading the sign to get back into the game with a solid pattern. I started by finding the other hunters travel areas which helped pinpoint what the deer were doing to avoid them. It paid off but not until the end of the season. It's tough to stay on top when deer are being pushed so hard with all of the intrusion not to mention most times they are in areas that you can be right on top of them with no available shot. The buck I got had gone unseen by me for two years, That just blows my mind that he could go so long undetected. |
03-07-2010, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by wmi It paid off but not until the end of the season. It's tough to stay on top when deer are being pushed so hard with all of the intrusion not to mention most times they are in areas that you can be right on top of them with no available shot. | wmi, It's also hard not to get discouraged when these things happen.
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03-07-2010, 07:41 PM
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Mike and all you other hard-line trophy hunters (I mean that in a nice way), I hope you keep in mind that hunters need to grow into the trophy phase, and in order to do that, they have to kill deer (any/several legal deer) first. Not only to get that first one under their belt, but also to learn about hunting deer. It does take some time and some kills, and like many have pointed out, some places may just not have the deer population for them to evolve to that point. I'm not saying everyone gets to, or should get to that point, even those in prime deer country, but it does take successful hunting experience.
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03-07-2010, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Hunting Man Anymore I'm not sure what works? In PA where they instituted the 3-4 pt restrictions have netted mixed results. First in the immediate short term we started to see more multiple point bucks, then they shot the heck out of the does and every hunter in the woods is shooting the barely legal bucks so how do you get the really big bucks? PA is a state that gets extreemly heavily hunted and now some 7 years later... we are seeing so few deer that some are looking to find new hunting grounds. In the early years 1970's we would see 20-40- deer per day of rifle season but low grade bucks, now 2-3 deer all week and very few bucks are taken/seen. Something has gone haywire and I'm still uncertain of what to do. I think all this deer management stuff better be well thought out or bad things will happen and it takes many years to correct. I'm all for fewer deer but quality racks, but something went to far???? | What is the season limit on Bucks in PA? In KY we get 1, no matter how ya kill it. In my end of the state we can kill as many does as we want and believe me, they want us to wack em. But our game dept will not budge on the 1 buck limit and frankly I don't want them to. Most of the land here is either under lease or posted. Finding hunting ground is a chore. Add to that the number of hunters is decreasing compared to 15 years ago and the quality of bucks is getting better and better.
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