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Old 12-04-2009, 08:58 AM
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Well, the wide spread deer was about all beam and no tine...well G2s were longest and maybe 6". Doesn't really matter I guess.

I have about 1700 acres that I hunt right around this area, and those acres completely surround this guy's place that is 320 acres. The deer I was talking about were bedding on one of my places, traveling through canyons across a corner of his place to a wheat field on another place I hunt. He has a piece of the travel corridor, and is a very good spot to see deer.

Oh...On a hunt in Texas a few years ago I watched a spooked doe jump over a 10 ft. fence. I wouldn't believe it if someone told me that, but I did see it. I don't the 7 ft. fence would do it.
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:48 AM
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I have read on quite a few sites that deer will only jump over 7 foot if pushed hard. There is a difference between can and will.

Think your texas hunt was a exception to the rule.
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:58 AM
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And if you are hunting 1700 acres you are in a lot better position to mange bucks than 99% of hunters. I understand your pain a lot more. But look at it from the 320s point of veiw. Those are nice bucks and you created a honey hole for him. Tough situation.

We have a club with serval thousand acres that border us to the north and they take out a lot of the big bucks that would graze on our 880 acres. I would try to create a Doe haven as far away from that 320 as you can get and hunt the monster on the way to and from the wheat field from that location, not perfect but if you can shift doe movement maybe the bucks won't cross his 320 as much. Good luck
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:04 PM
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That was one of my thoughts. I think next year I will let that wheat field lay, and maybe create another food plot on the property behind this one. It is harder to get to with the equipment, but I have been meaning to clear a trail through there for years anyway. Plus...bulldozers are fun! I hate to do it that way because it will mean they have to travel more open country instead of the canyons, but I think it is worth a try. I'm glad you (someone...anyone) kinda understands my situation.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:08 PM
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just to clarify i can see why your disapointed you were hoping to get a crack at him .there is an article about this in the most recent D&DH mag.maybe next year you guys can trade info and try to establish goals or standards for deer take
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:20 PM
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qdma is doing a lot with copos now in states like ohio. landowners in a neighborhood set some sort of plan and they all work towards a goal.
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Old 12-05-2009, 03:11 PM
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Body Bag makes a real good point. "And if it makes you feel any better. The 3 year old 11 point I shot last year was not caught on camera anywhere on our 880 acres (7 cameras). You may still have a Loch Ness that you haven't seen."

I too would not have hesitated to shoot an 8 pointer given the fact there are many other external forces that could fall that animal. unless you are on your own 1000 acres of food plotted and watered land it would be hard to manage the deer herd on it, and even then so.

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Old 12-07-2009, 01:06 PM
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Well...I think mods can erase this one as my point has been missed by most. Wrong crowd I guess.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:13 PM
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I've been gone for a week or so and just now catching up on some of the posts. This subject caught me a bit because I may be one of the ones who don't quite get the message. I suspect with all the work you put into trophy management that when factors out of your control invade and disrupt your efforts it sorta puts a major crimp in your rear so to speak. Without total property control I can't see how you will ever stop some buck take that you'd rather see not harvested. If we're missing your central point please expand and see if we can understand. HM
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:56 PM
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talk to the guy and see if his goals are the same as yours. maybe you guys can work out some sort of plan. the downside is you will have to give up something, like he can hunt part of your land or something otherwise it would be worth his effort/sacrifice. good luck
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