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06-12-2008, 08:06 PM
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onehorse comes across as a seasoned man so i trust his judgement.most of the time you can pick up on the "vibe"the guy is sending.that"hunter" sounds like he was bragging,cuz most people wouldnt share that story.Flexi you make a valid point though
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Genesis 27:3 "The thinking deer hunter should mature through three phases during his hunting life. First phase, "I need to kill a deer." Second phase, I want to harvest a nice deer. And last phase, we must manage this resource so our children and their children can experience the grand tradition of good deer hunting." - Jim Slinsky
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06-12-2008, 08:48 PM
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I know that I've lost 2 gut shot deer in my whole life. Both from a treestand, with a perfectly sighted scoped rifle. One was because I shot from a left handed shooter position and the other was because of treestand "twister" all turned and contorted in an awkward position. That was quite awhile ago and I've learned my lesson: don't take a shot unless it's a perfect opportunity and consider the cruel suffering the animal may experience with a "boneheaded" shot. So far my lesson learned is paying off. I may be in the same boat as that guy but I'll never live that mistake down. I'm a jerk.
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06-13-2008, 05:17 AM
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There's nothing wrong with a weak hand shot, if you practice it. I do. The other one, things happen and sometimes they suck. The thing is, on neither one did you watch it suffer for 2 hrs because you ran out of ammo. Even though they were gut shot if you could have found them you could have put a finish to it. Everyone makes mistakes and things do go wrong, the best we can do, and the game deserves our best, is be prepared for just about anything.
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06-13-2008, 11:44 AM
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In my opinion he wasnt a hunter, just a shooter, I belive a true hunter respects and cares about the animals and enviroment that is around him/her. it is sad that dips like that guy are out flappin their mouth with stories like that, those are the type of guys that ruin reputations and chances for hunters and outdoorsman all around. with all the challenges and hardships we hunters are going through to keep our rights and priviledges, people like that damage our cause and way of life.... good for for walking away maturely and showing restraint. we should all be so wise as to not give the opposition more fuel for the fire.
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06-13-2008, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by flexj gee whiz...you guys all perfect shots or what?? It seems wrong to be raking this guy over the coals without his beeing here to defend the situation. I think that many hunters have experienced a bad shot or two, but that doesn't mean they are trying to be cruel. I know that I have had a couple shots that didn't bring down the animal quickly, but it certainly was not intentional. I bet that this shot wasn't either...give the guy a break. Even a well placed bow shot does not immediately kill a deer, and I have had to track some a good distance. I just don't understand how you can judge this guy based on this story. | I'M WITH FLEXJ ON THIS ONE.I TO BELIEVE EVERYBODY HAS HAD A BAD SHOT ON A AN ANIMAL AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.
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06-13-2008, 09:27 PM
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| | I'm sure many hunters have had bad shots even myself but the difference between a hunter having a bad (poorly placed) shot and this guy that onehorse encountered is,, that guy seems to boast about running out of bullets and wasnt bothered at all by what he had done causing the animal to suffer a slow painful death.
This is how I read into onehorses post about this guy and If I I'm reading it correctly it isn't about a poorly placed shot, it's more about the guys poor unethical behavoir and attitude towrds his own actions... just my opinion...
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06-13-2008, 09:38 PM
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Yahtzee!! Bruce
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06-13-2008, 10:02 PM
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bruce, you said it all. Ethics!!!!!!
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06-13-2008, 11:08 PM
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Now therefore take, I pray thee, thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me some venison.
Genesis 27:3 "The thinking deer hunter should mature through three phases during his hunting life. First phase, "I need to kill a deer." Second phase, I want to harvest a nice deer. And last phase, we must manage this resource so our children and their children can experience the grand tradition of good deer hunting." - Jim Slinsky
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06-14-2008, 09:33 AM
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OOPS, I forgot to mention the most important piece of info from those two hunts. Myself and my dad attempted to find these deer all day long and also part of the next day. I was sick in the stomach for days because of it.
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