Handgun carrying permit?

[Buckshot]

Originally Posted by rogo

If you want to carry a handgun, move to Vermont. We have no restrictions at all. You may carry a concealed weapon here without any permit needed.

I'd rather pay the $200.

[Id0ntlikeyou]

Yeah no offense to the Yanks in the forum, but youd have to pay me alot of money to move north of the Mason Dixon!

[BruceBruce1959]

Just a little info to ponder on.

Vermont is priviledged to have such relaxed laws on weapons.
Ya'll Rebels can say what ya want about Vermont but
as a Vermonter my chances of becoming a victim are only 1 in 816 that's comforting to know.

a few other examples.. If I lived in
Louisiana my chances would be 1 in 166

if I lived in
Tennessee my chances would be 1 in 126

if I lived in
Texas my chances would be 1 in 172

if I lived in
New Hampshire my chances would be 1 in 714

So I guess it's fair to say at least Vermont is one of the Safer places to live and raise a family.

If anyone is interested here is a link to the nations 2008 15 Safest States to live in and the 15 Most dangerous States to live in.

Does anyone believe an Area's Gun laws play a roll in that area's Crime rates?

neat stuff bruce. heck i think the whole country should go the way of vt and alaska. then this whole reciporcity thing would be irrelevant. nh came close last year to being like vt but my understanding is that the police chief's assco. was against it. so we still need to get a permit. they were afraid that the officers wouldn't know who had a gun on them. i was taught that to make it home at the end of a shift treat everyone as if they are armed. makes sense right. bad guys don't bother with permits.

I believe the gun control laws have an effect on crime, in that, the fewer the restriction on guns the lower the crime rate. I go back to that study from a few years back that said criminals aren't afraid of the police cause thats only an arrest, they weren't afraid of jail cause thats 3 squares and a cot. what they are afraid of is joe homeowner greeting them at the window with a glock 30. Or look at DC and Baltimore. They have had bans on hand guns for 30 years and the crime rate there is crazy. cockeyed thinking in my opinion.

[Buckshot]

Actually I think Vermont and New Hampshire are probably great states and I plan on visiting there someday. As far as the safety issue; if we could seed Memphis over to Arkansas our numbers would probably as good as yours. :)

It's the other stuff that makes Tennessee my favorite. Weather! nuff said. Deer hunting seasons! I can be on a trout stream fishing or in some remote area hunting within 45 minutes from the house, Great bass fishing. Over one million acres of state and national forest within easy drive.

Low taxes, right to work laws, low cost of living, cheap electricity and did I mention the weather!

I do like your gun laws!

[BruceBruce1959]

I'm not knocking any of the other states, I've visited many other States (I've lived in Vermont, Florida & N.J.)
I've enjoyed many things in each of those states and many things in the other states I visited but I really believe
if All states were as releaxed as Vermont is on Weapons,,, America would be a safer place
and Ronn you are absolutely right it isn't the police our criminals are worried about, they worry more about the armed residents here and they should...

A robbery example:
A cop can Shout halt to make a criminal arrest a homeowner can Shoot to make a Criminal halt. AND THAT is the way it's supposed to be.

[DiveWithDave]

Timber The law in NY states that if it takes the licensing agency more than 6 months to complete the process, then the state must issue the permit and if it later finds cause not to issue the permit the state has to revoke it. So, after I waited 6 months for mine I went to the County Clerks Office in Rochester and showed them what the law said. I was told "ya a lot of people have tried this and what the judge said is the county hasn't had your permit request for 6 months the state has had it for part of the time. In other words you can't fight city hall even if you are right. I did get my permit after 10 months.

[Hunting Man]

Ohio must be in the middle of the road just like it sets in the country. No laws will protect against the insane, or the unlawfull. Nor can you stop the violence in malls and other high profile mass shootings. But having the right to protect one's self and family is the most important right that we have. Every area of this great country offers something different, if that fits your desires you stay. Ohio Proud!

[Id0ntlikeyou]

Ive lived in the UK, Qatar, IL, KS, NM, AL, and TX and have been to everystate outside the northeast. With all of that, I have to say that Texas is my all time favorite.

I love the climate, the sense of indentity that Texans have that is seperate from the rest of the country, the scenery, the politcal affiliation, the friendliness towards the military, among other things.

I'm not saying its perfect, we do have liberal bastions like dallas, houston, and austin and we do border the festering armpit of the world to the south that causes us many a headache like .

I still love it though. It's a great place to live despite being number 14 on your list Bruce. What can you expect though, being a border state with as big a population and as good a state economy as ours?

did you hear about the texan up visiting niagara falls. tour guide says to him "bet you don't anything like these falls in texas?" the texan thought for a min and replied "no, but we got a plumber that can fix that leak."