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04-22-2008, 10:10 AM
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the baiting issue in NY is a pain in the rear.the DEC outlawed feeding of wildlife just recently.thats all wildlife.bird feeders too.the storry i got is too many racoons and bears takig advantage of the free food.the birds dont migrate if ya feed em and drop dead if ya stop.the deer arent part of the equation.Before they stopped feeding of wildlife it was legal to feed the animals but not deer for the fear of CWD.I knew guys that would spend 1000$ on cracked corn and hunt near feeders.not for me but if its legal go for it.So now you got guys feeding the deer big time trying to "hold "the deer on thier property. it started all kinds of trouble..Afterall how dare i shoot your deer.personally im glad the law is in place it makes it "fair"alll around.also the dec said the deer corn was bad for the deer.I dont by that cuz deer in those cornbelt areas grow mighty fine
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04-22-2008, 09:09 PM
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The people coming out of the burger joints grow mighty fine too, but that don't make them healthy 
Just kidding, I have no idea about what's a balanced diet for them. I would guess that they must have a balance and not just too much of one thing, but I'm no expert.
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04-22-2008, 09:41 PM
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funny......
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04-26-2008, 05:58 AM
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Hey I'm back. This is a subject near to my heart. Baiting has one major draw back, spreading TB and possibly other diseases. Also, you have to watch for molds as some bait sources will mold up after rain and warm weather hits them. As far as food plots I have not read where the transfer of saliva is as much as a concern. Food plots with up to 30-38 % proteen will help a under-nutritional heard. Hunting over your food plots/bait is a personal matter, and state issue, I choose not to.
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05-24-2008, 05:48 AM
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Has anyone started putting in their food plots and what did you plant?This would have been a good spring to plant with the cool weather.
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05-24-2008, 08:52 AM
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I'm trying that " Natures Own Throw and Grow". Neat looking stuff. check it out on line, cool mix. I have one plot to do that i'm going to till an old hidden field just to see how it grows and if the critters like it. don't think i''ll hunt there but.....
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05-24-2008, 08:57 PM
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I haven't heard of that product. With the upcoming surgery I'm going to try a late season planting of something. I will have plenty of time to think about what to try. I think I can do a early September planting this should allow the plants a good start.
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05-24-2008, 09:09 PM
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Its a mix of a couple clovers, rape, rye, oats, millet, turnips, cow peas, dwarf corn, and sunflower, those are just the ones I remember. Its says it only needs 3 to 4 hrs of sun. so with that mix bag of stuff it should be good from early to late. I think it was like $30 for 12lbs. kinda pricey but if it grows and is good for all critters, and covers spring through fall it may be worth it. I think it said 50lbs per acre spread rate. cost wise how does that compare to the stuff you normally use keeping in mind the early and late parts of the mix?
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05-25-2008, 05:55 AM
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Excluding fertlizer and lime I usually figure 100-130 per acre for seed. So your blend is right in line with that. Ronn is that product a spring plant only and where did you see it advertised? Thanks. I try to plant a mix of clover/chichory/brassicas. I would like to try power plant from whitetail institute its high price and a spring plant so not this year. I'm probably missing the best planting year but things sometimes get in the way.
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05-25-2008, 08:48 AM
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Thanks thats good to know that it is in line cost wise. I was looking for a local store that carries Thro-Grow and checked on line. There was a site that said throw and grow and I checked it out. The co. is Natures Own and the product is called throw and grow mixture. whitetailhabitat.com is the web site. This is a list of dealers that are closest to me but might be in your neighborhood. On the bucket it says plant in the spring or late season dormant planting. It also says fertilizing is better than not, duh. Whitetails Unlimited, LLC 658 W Park Street Honesdale PA 18431 Field Director - David Bates 570-226-4227 Whitetails Unlimited, LLC info@whitetailsunlimited.com 236 miles (as the crow flies) Whitetails Unlimited, LLC 40 White Dog Drive Schuylkill Haven PA 17972 Field Director - Bob Koperna 570-739-1618 Whitetails Unlimited, LLC info@whitetailsunlimited.com 315 miles (as the crow flies) Turf & Farm Supplies, Inc. 401 Myrtle Street Hammonton NJ 08037 609-561-7184 325 miles (as the crow flies) Whitetails Unlimited, LLC 834 Renier Ave Turtle Creek PA 15145 Field Director - Jim Miller 412-824-4668 Whitetails Unlimited, LLC info@whitetailsunlimited.com 478 miles (as the crow flies) Whitetails Unlimited, LLC 10045 Kinsman Kinsman OH 44428 Field Director - Dennis Malloy 330-876-0134 Whitetails Unlimited, LLC info@whitetailsunlimited.com 482 miles (as the crow flies) Whitetails Unlimited, LLC 7792 Dutch Saginaw MI 48609 Field Director - Dale Myer 989-781-6939 Whitetails Unlimited, LLC info@whitetailsunlimited.com 624 miles (as the crow flies)
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