bowman99, you using a safety harness? I'm sure I have an extra harness, brand new, laying around if you need one. Be really careful with wooden do it yourself stands, your life depends on it. You know several stores like Menards or Dick's sporting goods, run year end sales around 49.00-59.00 for hang ons as well as ladder stands. I know a person's budget dictates their equipment, just be careful and give your stands good low ground safety checks. The weather will take a toll on them if left up all season. You using treated lumber and good coated deck screws? If you can tell, I get concerned with hunters making wooded hang on tree stands! If you need a harness let me know.