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Let Us All Pray for Obama

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#1 ·
Please Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8 :thumbup:



Psalm 109:8 (English Standard Version) and the passage reads...

May his days be few; may another take his office!
 
#7 ·
yeah, same here... don't think praying for his death would be a good thing to do. Instead, I hope he moves on to something other than the Presidency. With an approval rating of only 41% that just might be the case.... but then again, when you add in all the "illegal's" votes....
 
#8 ·
i dont think it to harsh. yes maybe im more of an eye for an eye guy than a turn the other cheak guy but. think of this. the vers i posted is the one tha emeadiatly folows the one you did, and i did not post the ones that follow it. that would have been harsh.
9Let his children be fatherless
And his wife a widow.

10Let his children wander about and beg;
And let them seek sustenance far from their ruined homes.

11Let the creditor seize all that he has,
And let strangers plunder the product of his labor.

12Let there be none to extend lovingkindness to him,
Nor any to be gracious to his fatherless children.

i wish no ill will on his family. as a mater of fact, think about this. the man hates god. just look at the way he talks about christianity, and the way he talks about islam. what do you think tha chances are that his two daughters will exept christ into there lifes and become saved if they keep hearing what he has to say? now imagan this, he is delivering one of his anti god speeches, when out of nowere, and a blue sky, comes one single bolt of linghtening, striking him down, in such a way that there is no denieing that it was the wrath of god. imagan how many people would realize that we need to put god back into our countery so that we as a countery will not suffer the same fate.
 
#9 ·
i dont think it to harsh. yes maybe im more of an eye for an eye guy than a turn the other cheak guy but. think of this. the vers i posted is the one tha emeadiatly folows the one you did, and i did not post the ones that follow it. that would have been harsh.

i wish no ill will on his family. as a mater of fact, think about this. the man hates god. just look at the way he talks about christianity, and the way he talks about islam. what do you think tha chances are that his two daughters will exept christ into there lifes and become saved if they keep hearing what he has to say? now imagan this, he is delivering one of his anti god speeches, when out of nowere, and a blue sky, comes one single bolt of linghtening, striking him down, in such a way that there is no denieing that it was the wrath of god. imagan how many people would realize that we need to put god back into our countery so that we as a countery will not suffer the same fate.
OK I really hate getting involved in Religious discussions as everyone has their own interpretation. I have not been to church in a long time because of my own personal reasons but I DO believe in the Lord but Hunt NH I don't get what you are saying
1. eye for an eye what has he done to deserve death?
being a terrible president?
2. you wish no ill will on his family but pray for his death?
& the rest I really don't get aren't we as Christians more forgiving & understanding then others also isn't it the one great thing about living in the USA is the freedoms we have including Religion?
what I am saying is the way you wrote that sounds like he should die because you think (could be true) he is not Christian but is of Muslim faith?
sounds more Muslim then Christian to me
I am not going to post any further because this is the worst argument to have Religion & Politics combined
If I am wrong how I interpreted it I apologize
 
#10 ·
Well first off, Psalms 109 is a prayer for the enemy. I do not consider Obama the enemy. Just because a person has different beliefs than I do doesn't mean I'm going to treat him like my enemy. Now, that said, I do not agree with all his views politically, religiously, ethically and morally. Do I want to see him in office for a 2nd term, HECK no. But what we are saying is that to wish that someone's family be fatherless and wife a widow is awfully harsh. Plus that is meant for the enemy of a fight/war/battle. Now with the recent news of Bin Laden, HE would be considered the enemy. And his wife(s) are now widows and his child(ren) are now fatherless. That would be a good verse for him. My whole point is we need him out of office. I'm not saying someone should cause him harm or anything of the sort. I just want him out of the White House.
If you look at the passages in the Bible, before what Bruce posted, it reads:

1 God of my praise, do not be silent.
2 For wicked and deceitful mouths open against me;
they speak against me with lying tongues.
3 They surround me with hateful words
and attack me without cause.
4 In return for my love they accuse me,
but I continue to pray. 5 They repay me evil for good,
and hatred for my love.
6 Set a wicked person over him;
let an accuser stand at his right hand.
7 When he is judged, let him be found guilty,
and let his prayer be counted as sin. 8 Let his days be few;
let another take over his position.

If you read this passage carefully, this is one group trying to overcome another. Obama is not trying to "overtake" us in that way. Now, some would argue that his view are meant to "overtake" us in areas of our lives, but these passages are not meant in that sense. Verse 7 is the most interesting to me... this is for all of those out there who pray to a different god besides the living GOD.
Anyways, that's my take on it... not trying to start anything NH, just my point of view.
 
#13 · (Edited)
Well first off, Psalms 109 is a prayer for the enemy. I do not consider Obama the enemy. Just because a person has different beliefs than I do doesn't mean I'm going to treat him like my enemy. Now, that said, I do not agree with all his views politically, religiously, ethically and morally. Do I want to see him in office for a 2nd term, HECK no. But what we are saying is that to wish that someone's family be fatherless and wife a widow is awfully harsh. Plus that is meant for the enemy of a fight/war/battle. Now with the recent news of Bin Laden, HE would be considered the enemy. And his wife(s) are now widows and his child(ren) are now fatherless. That would be a good verse for him. My whole point is we need him out of office. I'm not saying someone should cause him harm or anything of the sort. I just want him out of the White House.
Good post tator. I have friends/co-workers that voted for Obama. Its their vote that put him in the White House. I may not agree with them but I darn sure do not wish ill will to any of them. Same with our President. America voted him in. I dont agree with it and will be glad when he is gone. But darn sure dont want anything to happen to his family. His daughters didnt choose their dad. God did.

Politics and Relegion can be touchy subjects. Be respectful of others that may not agree with you. Please speak your mind. Just do it in a manner that will less likely offend others that dont agree with you.
 
#11 ·
Unfortunately man made religion and politics synonymous. Most wars are comprised of factions of both parts. That's the way of man. Even our perfect God took wrath on his own people because of the way we became, morally corrupt. How much more can even HE take and not send down the savior and end it all. The world has to be far worse off than when the great flood came and a correction was made to mankind. Seems like the times are right for misery and strife, I don't know just feeling down some today, maybe.
 
#12 ·
I agree with you HM. This world can cause anyone to get down and depressed... it has happened to me. I can't believe our own country has so many stupid and lazy people living in it that they can't even hardly live with out help from someone or something.
Interesting topic you brought up about Jesus coming back! That was actually our topic yesterday at Church. Our pastor made a very, very, very interesting and true comment. The reason why Jesus has waited so long is because He wants to give us all the opportunity to choose Him. He wants to "save" and give us the opportunity to "save" as many people as we can! He loves us so much that He doesn't WANT us to go to hell, He wants all of us to be saved! Unfortunately, that's not what's going to happen because there are people out there who refuse to believe.

I firmly believe Jesus Christ will come back sooner than we all think. I think he will come back in my lifetime, and I hope he does! How awesome would that be to be alive when he makes his decend from heaven?!?!?!

Acts 1:9-11
9 After He had said this, He was taken up as they were watching, and a cloud received Him out of their sight.
10 While He was going, they were gazing into heaven, and suddenly two men in white clothes stood by them.
11 They said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking up into heaven? This Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come in the same way that you have seen Him going into heaven."
 
#16 ·
ok now that this old thread was brought back. when all the others brought up that my deep seeded anger for him was not consistant with christian thinking. i took a long hard look at it, to see if i was looking at it all wrong. from a christian stand point maybe i was. but in the end i felt that in the end, i believe that he was/is trying his hardest to destroy this nation. that assumeing he realy is a citizen like he claims is treason. treason is a capital offence. and seeing as how th potus will never be tryed let alown convicted of treason, that is why i would like to see god do it. but i never brought up that opinion for several reasons. one i felt that was just a subject i should just let get lost in the pages of this forum. 2 i have a tremendous amount of respect for several of the members who disagreed with me, and did not argue with them over it. 3 i think buy now, and several debates with me. (and i have been on the same side with many of them, and on the other side in different debates) that they have learned that i do not often change my point of views, and exepted me for me. wile some times my opinions my be verry flawed, that over all i am a good guy, and i think they know that. but sence you felt the need to bring this back up, and wile doing so question my faith i will say this..... are you not the same guy who stood up for abortion clinics in another thread? ( i know you are i looked it up before typing this) so you mean to tell me that it is more christian to suport doctors who kill babys, than it is for me to wish that god would smite the man i feel is doing his best to destroy " one nation under god"? ok with that all sead if any one wants to look back to my origanal posts about this, i hold no ill will against his family, espeshali his innocent childeren. yes i know on the serface wishing them to be fatherless looks like i do, but by my logic (flawed as it may be) that they would be better off. sorry to all who may be offended by how i feel on this, and i wont hold it against you if you pray for me to change my opinion. nor will i not change my opinion if i get the feeling deep down if i get the feeling that god wants me to chainge it. but i do think that though verses were put in the bible for a reason. so that we could wish for god to take his revenge on the enemys of chistianity, instead of going all crazy like the muslems do, and think that it is ok to do it our selfs. and i dont think that it would be ok for someone to do that. again sorry to anone offended my my views on this.
 
#17 ·
Psalm 109:9 if you dont understand it dont just discount it as being non christian.Pray for guidance on it,and ask others to have a bible study on the subject.Praise GOD for all things and knolage to understand them
 
#19 ·
ok we just posted were it is in the bible to wish/pray for such things. so is the bible unChristain? and if i were ploting it (wich i am not) that would be treason, but that is not what i am doing. wishing death on a sh!t bag who is hell bent on destroying the US is not treason. its freedom, and liberty. and i find it quite insulting that you question my christianity, and accuse treason.
 
#22 ·
I'm really enjoying this discussion and this exchange of ideas. It is very interesting.

I get the Christian view and your view of abortion and gays and the lesbians. That's all good. But what I don't get is why you think the government has a role and a right to tell those people how they should live their lives? It's not the government's business.

I also guarantee you DO know someone who has had an abortion and you do know someone who is gay and a lesbian. They have just chosen not to tell you about it or you haven't noticed because, as you said, you don't worry about.

Love to all, brother. Jesus wanted it that way!
 
#23 ·
Please don't question my love for my fellow humans. I have no reservations when it comes to loving others. Now, do I agree with some people's lifestyles? NO. Why do I have to be tolerant of their lifestyles? I'm not hating them, you brought that part up. I said nothing about hatred or dislike. I simply DO NOT agree with those things because they are not Biblical.
I also stated that I do not know anyone who has had an abortion or is gay/lesbian. That fact remains.. now if they are hiding it, they are doing a good job of it. The fact still remains, I don't know about it,, therefore I don't know someone who has or is.
The reason the government has a say-so on these issues is because first off, we are a CHRISTIAN nation. When this country was founded there was never talks of considering legalizing abortion, and yet rapes and incest still went on. There were no talks of gay and lesbian marriages, and yet there still were people living their lives this way. The Government, believe it or not, still has alot of influence on the people in this country. IF you gave your child a day of NO RULES and everything was "tolerated" and looked at as "acceptable" then your house would be in ruin and it would take you probably a week to "get your child back to normal". The same goes for this nation. If we were to legalize both of these things, where does that stop?

Are you saying that because something is legal, it's right????? I hope that's not what you are saying.... That's a HUGE gamble I wouldn't be willing to take. So if abortion was legalized throughout this nation, it would ok in your eyes? Just because it's "legal"? I'm guessing not,, in your eyes... but to many people IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED THAT WAY... that's why government has a place.


LOVE TO ALL BROTHER... but I don't have to agree with your lifestyle....
 
#24 ·
Live and let live, I say brother. Not my business what you do, nor what my neighbor does, whether they follow one god or another or none. Definitely NOT the government's business either. State, Federal, city, county, they got no business poking in what goes on in my house when it's a MORAL issue. Who is to judge morality? God? So let Him judge not some corrupted elected official. Who they Hell are they?

Yes, a government provides an authority to build roads, provide fire department, police, and draw up LAWS that are criminal but a morality is not to be judged by a government.

And the 1600s and 1700s weren't so great. That's why we have progress. And electricity and the internet.
 
#25 ·
And the 1600s and 1700s weren't so great. That's why we have progress. And electricity and the internet.

1600's??? wasn't going back that far, brother. After all, our country was founded in 1776. :shocking:

Your opinion is just that, YOUR opinion. And my opinion is just that, MY opinion. We can respect that.

You're right, kids that grow up with parents w/no morals and no rules tend to turn out so well. They grow up to be responsible citizens of this country and law abiders to the "t". I don't know what I was thinking about having a "governing body" (OR MOM AND DAD) in charge of them.

I think you are mistaking my opinion for saying I agree with how our government is ran right now,,, it is not ran correclty. I.E. it all starts with that big white colored house on Penn. ave. in DC. If we have a "parent" that had no morals and everything is socially exceptable, then the "kids" or COUNTRY will end up the way it is... but who cares, let's just continue letting the people of this country make their own decisions when it comes to abortion and gay and lesbian issues... our country is in such a great shape right now. :wacko:
 
#28 ·
Dylan if those are the things (roads, police dept.'s, fire dept.'s) that decide who you'll vote for, then you should avoid voting for Obama.
Obama's already spent Trillions of dollars and has a Proven record of spending money on everything but Roads, Police Dept's. and Fire Dept's.
 
#34 ·
Obama's already spent Trillions of dollars and has a Proven record of spending money on everything but Roads, Police Dept's. and Fire Dept's.

Yeah....like centers for women to have open abortions because "it's their right" The dad doesn't have a say so in it,,, it's "woman's rights"....

What exactly is our President spending our money on right now, Dylan?


:whistling:
 
#29 ·
Obama has taken our country to a serious evil depth that will take many many years to climb out of. The USA is tarnished and needs to be shined up and put back on the road of world leaders. We need factories, refineries, production, not failed solar companies that sucked up taxpayer monies and went out of business or are building factories in Mexico with our tax dollars or corrupt banking. Obama stands for all that is bad/wrong. Being gay or socialist or whatever is your right as a human, just remember you will be the only one standing to be judged one at a time in front of the only judge that matters and only you will have to explain your actions, there won't be gangs of immoral supporters trying to "change" the rules backing you up. If you think our God is all forgiving then read about Sodom and Gamora (Tator correct my spelling) there was two cities so morally corrupt that God had enough and permanently ended the sinning. Justifying corruption/socialism/immoral acts is exactly whats matter with our country. I might be old fashion in my thoughts but I'm comfortable with/in them. This might be all over the place but I get my dandruf up over the thought processes of the Obama supporters and their ways. I'm done, sick to my stomach now.
 
#30 ·
i think you guys are wasting your time with Dylan. im about 99% sure he is trolling, and the fact that he knew what i was refuring to when i called him a troll just renforces that thought. not to mention the fact that he hasent gone way off the deep end with it, and can get you all to go back and forth about his post show to me that he is good at it, and has been doing it a long time. just ignoring him is the only way he will stop.
 
#35 ·
I agree... I respect him for having his own beliefs, but he does not back them up very well. If someone is a true Christian, how can you be ok with the way our country is right now? It makes me sick to think where we're headed. HM... I agree with you about everyone has the "right" to consider themselves gay or **** or whatever you want to call it, but it's also like I said, if it's NOT legalized then there will be alot less of it going on. We can't stop it, but we can control it. As a Christian nation, GOD WANTS us to live like one. And we are not. Our current president does not have morals that support a Christian Nation. He stands for EVERYTHING Christians DON'T! He's been riding this train for too long. IF you give the kids free-run of the house, they're going to distroy it. It's time we had a President who acted like a PARENT to our country. Not our buddy.
 
#36 ·
Tator, my point was humans have the right to, go, do, become whatever they want too, however, they will stand by themselves on judgement day to answer for those actions. To those forming groups to tear down morality, and undo all that made our country great, your day of recconing is coming! That's my point. What's worse is a country's leader paving the way towards sin.
 
#37 ·
I absolutely agree HM... it's just a shame that our country's leader can't have the right morals to keep this country going in the right direction, both ethically and morally. My whole point about the abortion and gay/lesbian thing is how much influence Obama has on this nation. Maybe not to you and me, but there are millions of people who look up to him for advice and consider him very knowledgeable about programs and policies in place in this country. That's my point.. I know people will still have abortions and be gay even if it's illegal... it's just that this country has always had leaders who backed this up... now we don't. I think it's the #1 reason why we're going down the crapper... when ethics and morals go out the windows,, anything goes.
 
#39 · (Edited)
no i dont think that not agreeing 100% of the time is trolling. i have had disagreements with just about every one on hear. iv been the only one one my side in debates. and i have been on the same side as everyone elce on other debates. the reason i am confident that you are trolling is because you dont have many post. and in thoughs small amount to post you have, questioned the faith of more than one member of this forum in the christain corner, made tha accusation of treason against another (me, just so no one thinks im hiding that fact) just for hopeing for the death of a man who has done his best to destroy my country. ( and for the record im a third generation vet, who was disabled in the line of duty, and medicly discharged under honnerable conditions, and id do it all over again for my country) so ya i dont think im exactly the kind of person who would ever even so much as think about commiting treason. and amongst other things acted like you thought we were making false and unfounded accusations against obama for for not being a christain. when all you have to do is lissten to how he talkes up about islam, and bashes christains, and our values to see that he is not a christian. and in all you inflamitory post you have yet to back up any of your positions with eather fact, or compelling lodgic. so ya, when you add all that up i dont think that its to far off for me to just assume your a troll.
 
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