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az.hunter 10-18-2009 09:38 PM

New Here From AZ, Questions about whitetail
Hey there... Jason from Northern AZ here...
Great forum! Avid western hunter here, but heading out on an archery whitetail hunt in Kansas the 2nd week of November...

I've hunted out there twice (2004 - 160" 10 point & 2008 - 180" 12 point). Both bucks were taken in December on rifle hunts, but I am really interested in any suggestions you can give me in regards to hunting these awesome animals.

I've talked w/some guys and I've watched some of the hunting shows..., however, not all information is given in much detail...

I'm really interested in calls/calling and scent attractants.

IE: snort-wheeze (when, how often?). rattling & grunting (again, when, how often, how aggresively)?

And, being a western hunter and used to long spot & stalk situations or hours in ground blinds over water sources..., I am used to scent away products and use them religiously. Also, during elk hunts in the rut, I know when and how to use elk urine. However, wicks & urine...? Where to locate? How much to use? How to set-up?

My hunting will be out of tree stands over food & water sources and travel routes... (Pre-Determined by the hunting outfitter that I am using)..., however, I am looking for any other advantage that I can give myself in order to harvest a quality buck.

I've probably rambled on & on & lost the interest of my readers..., but if anyone is still reading & can offer any advice..., and and all information provided would be greatly appreciated.

Hope you all are having a wonderful season.


timberghost 10-19-2009 06:12 AM

Hey az.hunter welcome to the site and greetings from WNY. I don't use any calls that much and usually just stick with a doe in heat scent and lots of cover scent/scent killer stuff. I think that if you are in a great spot that holds alot of deer you ought to be alright. Good Luck to you.

ronn 10-19-2009 07:18 AM

welcome, there are those that feel you shouldn't use a call unless you see the deer and there are those that blind call. i fall in the second group. thats for grunt and bleat calls. i'm pretty sure the snort-wheeze is used for when you see that shooter. its a challenge call. the one in my avatar came back to a snort-wheeze. all that said with your record there, you seems to be doing something right stick with it.

Hunting Man 10-19-2009 08:52 AM

Welcome for Ohio, I agree if your shooting bucks of a lifetime, I'd stick with what you're already doing. I like to rattle in the morning during the rut in PA, but these are 1.5 to 3 year old bucks and will respond sometimes, but I asume the bucks you are after are 5-6 year olds and well in their ways. Your spot stalk method seems to be the norm out west so maybe thats it. If the bucks are 400-500 yds away when you spot them they probably wouldn't hear or respond to rattleing , just a guess though. I rattle thinking about 80 yds maximum range for bucks to respond its not scientific in any way. I'd like to put just one of those class bucks on the wall, you already have two, nice going! Good luck in Kansas.

BruceBruce1959 10-19-2009 09:37 AM

Greetings from Vermont, Welcome to the Club. nothing I can add here, I agree with all the replies here..

az.hunter 10-19-2009 12:43 PM

BruceBruce, Hunting Man, Ronn & Timberghost...

Thanks guys... All information is greatly appreciated.
Think I'll watch some more videos on the calling & rattling...

I'll let you all know how it works out for me.

Thanks again;

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