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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-21-2009, 06:48 PM
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Oh I'm not doubting you read something about the freeze he put on some things and maybe the CC rule was mentioned but legally that's something he can't touch. He can begin the process to overturn it but like that article says it could take months even years to get it changed back.

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post #12 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-21-2009, 06:54 PM
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yeah that's what i thought but that 60 day thing made me balk. heck its like being on a sinking ship out in the Atlantic. no point in worrying or crying about it now its to late just start swimming. whats gonna happen is gonna happen.
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still can't find what I read but I did find this.
Democrats Eye Bush Midnight Regulations

By Cindy Skrzycki
Tuesday, November 11, 2008; D03

As President-elect Barack Obama's transition team prepares for the Jan. 20 inauguration, it is tracking the "midnight" regulations being churned out in the final days of the Bush administration.
Regulatory policy may not have as high a profile as economic issues and foreign policy for Obama. Still, many of these latter-day Bush rules are flash points for liberal public-interest groups, Democrats in Congress and the business community.
Among the regulations being monitored are a proposal to end a ban on carrying loaded guns in national parks, a plan that could make it harder for women to get federally funded reproductive health care, and a Labor Department proposal to change the way regulators assess risk for jobs, especially those that expose workers to chemicals.
"These are the ones worth watching," said Matt Madia, regulatory policy analyst at OMB Watch, a nonprofit group critical of many Bush regulatory policies. "Most of them relax existing requirements. They make it easier for industries to pollute or deny a worker medical leaves."
Some 130 rules could be completed before Bush leaves. The White House has finished reviews of 100 rules since Sept. 1, up from 36 in the same period last year. Representatives of chemical makers, scallop fishermen and kidney dialysis companies are among those who have pressed their cases with White House officials in recent weeks, according to a public list of the meetings.
The new president may issue executive orders to reverse some Bush policies and may get help from a law passed by the Republican-controlled Congress in 1996 to review and eliminate Clinton-era rules it didn't like. The law has been successfully used once, in 2001, to kill a rule designed to prevent repetitive motion injuries in the workplace.
The same day President Bush was inaugurated in 2001, Andrew Card, who was the White House chief of staff, issued an order blocking Clinton regulations that hadn't taken effect. Ninety final rules had their effective dates delayed, according to a 2002 General Accounting Office report.
To avoid a similar fate when Obama takes office, Bush regulators issued a call for what could be called 11 o'clock regulations. In May, White House Chief of Staff Joshua B. Bolten told agencies that except in "extraordinary circumstances," they should propose rules by June 1 so final versions could be issued by Nov. 1.
That gave them time to take effect before Obama is sworn in. Final rules often are challenged in court. Congressional Democrats say they are being vigilant. On Halloween, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California issued a list of "Ghoulish Midnight Regulations'' -- 11 Bush rules that involve changes in laws governing such issues as air pollution limits, disability rights, Medicaid reimbursement and how long truck drivers can be on the road.
"This is just a sampling," Nadeam Elshami, a Pelosi spokesman, said of the list. "We are talking to committee chairs on how to stop or reverse them."
One possibility is blocking funding. Another is the law Republicans aimed at Clinton rules.
With a Democratic Congress and president, the stars are lined up to meet the complicated procedural deadlines of the Congressional Review Act. Rules issued after mid-May potentially would be eligible to be disapproved during the next session of Congress.
"The Congressional Review Act, only being used once before, does add a new weapon and complication to the process," said Randel Johnson, vice president of labor, immigration and employee benefits at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
Trial lawyers, who often sue corporations on behalf of consumers, say more than 60 rules contain provisions making it impossible to sue in state courts for negligence on the part of manufacturers.
These preemption clauses are part of safety regulations issued by the Food and Drug Administration and Department of Transportation rules covering the operation of door locks, how many seat belts must be in a vehicle, and the required strength of vehicle roofs to withstand rollovers, according to the American Association for Justice, a trial lawyers' trade group.
"The next administration has the task of addressing these in a timely fashion," said Gerie Voss, director of regulatory affairs at the American Association for Justice. In September, the Institute for the Study of Regulation at the New York University School of Law wrote to the White House to complain that at least three new rules violated the Bolten decree against what the institute called "last-minute" policymaking.
Susan Dudley, the White house's top rule reviewer, responded in an Oct. 9 letter, saying that the memo wasn't "intended to be a moratorium." She also signaled that there will be post-November Bush rulemaking. The Bolten memo contemplates it would be appropriate, with White House approval, for some rules to proceed "without regard to deadlines."
Cindy Skrzycki is a regulatory columnist with Bloomberg News. She can be reached at cskrzycki@bloomberg.net

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post #14 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-21-2009, 07:48 PM
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anyway time will tell
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WHouse stops pending Bush regulations for reviewTue Jan 20, 7:25 pm ET

Featured Topics: WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama's new administration ordered all federal agencies and departments on Tuesday to stop any pending regulations until they can be reviewed by incoming staff, halting last-minute Bush orders in their tracks.
"This afternoon, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel signed a memorandum sent to all agencies and departments to stop all pending regulations until a legal and policy review can be conducted by the Obama administration," the White House said in a statement issued just hours after Obama took office.
The review is a tool commonly used by a new administration to delay so-called "midnight regulations" put in place by a former president between the election and Inauguration Day.
Midnight regulations have been heavily used by recent former presidents, including the Democrat Bill Clinton, Republican George H. W. Bush, and most recently, the Republican George W. Bush.
Controversial late rules by the outgoing Bush administration include allowing the carrying of concealed weapons in some national parks and prohibiting medical facilities from receiving federal money for discriminating against doctors and nurses who refuse to assist with abortions or dispense contraceptives based on religious grounds.
Federal law requires a 60-day waiting period before any major regulatory changes become law, so some presidents try to publish new major regulations to ensure they go into effect before the new president's inauguration on January 20.
(Reporting by Tabassum Zakaria; Editing by Patricia Zengerle)

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post #16 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-22-2009, 07:36 AM
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Ronn I'm pretty certain Nobama can only put a Freeze on "Pending" issues not on Rules/regulations that have already passed through the supreme court. That's not to say he Can't start the process to change it back.

I've been saying right along WE need to start preparing for ALL of the attacks he is going to make on "Weapons" & "Hunting" (and all the issues that are going to affect us) and ya know what I keep hearing?
Let's not jump the gun just yet, let's wait and see what he has up his sleeve, Give him a chance maybe he won't bother weapons at all, Meanwhile
his staff is drawing up a gazillion "changes" while WE just sit and wait.
I'm telling you all right NOW, I'm in Vermont and you all know how liberal Vermont is with guns and hunting and a lot of what Obama does is going to affect us as well but We still have State Laws protecting each of US BUT if your state isn't a "Pro-Gun" or "Pro Hunting" State, then you're going to be in a real dilemma If WE don't start to prepare.
Obama already won the first round, (he was sworn in) Are we going to just sit back and let him win round 2?
I'm doing what little I can do, I'm writing my senators when asked to, I've renewed all my PRO-Gun memberships but If we don't start Rallying behind the NRA and the other organizations fighting for us, we may as well just drop off our weapons now at the local post office.

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post #17 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-22-2009, 08:20 AM
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very true bruce.that reminds wheres my checkbook?got to renew my NRA membership and send a donation

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post #18 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-22-2009, 02:24 PM
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a hits a hit and the article told of a hit. like i said where it goes now who knows and the article didn't say. from the article it appears the freeze on CC in National parks is more true than not, for the time being anyway.
post #19 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-22-2009, 03:07 PM
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It's not true, If it were true Don't you think it would show up at the Concealed Carry website?
I check it everyday, there's not even a mention of it at the CC website but I'm sure if it were true
that would be the first place it would show up.
Wouldn't you think?

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post #20 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-22-2009, 04:16 PM
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whatever. i can only read whats there. can't read whats not there.

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