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Old 01-10-2012, 07:30 PM
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Sorry scribe you are right the average archer when hunting is better off with a hand held index finger release.Also is does take alot of disicipline to ingrain your shot sequence to go on automatic.Once ingrained with daily practice you keep it sharp just like a golfer keeps his swing form.It is a great feeling with the bow to be totally free to aim at the moment of truth but again its a process.Most archers find it like myself after expierencing target panic and looking for a solution to it.And scribe if you lost six arrows you know the feeling of a surprise release but it could have been worse you also could've punched yourself in the mouth if it was a hinge release.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:38 AM
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I started thinking about it and felt I should get serious. A back tension release is used primarily to cure or at least help with target panic. Since I have never experienced this and being a finger shooter, I never saw a need for one.

I worked closely with a young man who had a terrible case of it. He got a back tension video that I made hinm throw away and we started working. First I had him shooting at a cotton bale at 3 yards with his eyes closed. For two weeks, that is all he did, concentrating on using his back muscles. I was slowly able to work him up to shooting 2" dots at 20-yards and he progressed from there. It took three months, shooting five days a week, from 20-40 times a day to get him to normal and once he was there, he went back to the regular style. As far as I know, he has never had a prblem since.

In my experience, target panic only occurs in people who shoot targets a lot. By a lot, I mean up to 50X a day. The problem being, you over concentrate and then start second guessing. This is all done subconciously. When I was testing bows, I often shot 100X a day but accuracy was not a big thing so I was never bothered. My job was to simply evaluate overall performance, not accuracy since that is the human end of things.

Just for testing, I shot a tension release for a couple weeks and could see the advantage of it for a target archer with a chance or case of TP. For hunting, I felt it was a handicap and required far more time than the average hunter has to spend shooting. I am a uge advocate of KISS.

That is all I was trying to point out. In testing and evaluating archery products for so many years, I often was troubled with the "building the better mousetrap" syndrome. For example, except for testing purposes and with only the hunter in mind, I never shot a release, used a stabilizer, trued a peep, saw a need for more than two sight pins or had any desire to shoot the fastest bow on the block. But I was soley a hunter, concerned only with hitting a softball size target and with no concern for a tight group. I only wanted my first shot to hit where I aimed every time.

Over the years, I coached or taught scores of men and women to shoot a bow. I taught them my style and let them proceed from there. Almost every one eventually had a release, a sight with 100 pins, a variety of stabilizers, peep sights, the fastest bow made and trouble killing deer.

The day I finally admited I had to go to a crossbow, I actually cried. The bow I hung up, had one pin-set dead on at 25-yards, no peep and shot a blistering 256fps. The last animal I killed was a fair bull elk at 45 yards. My 125gr. Thunderhead hit right where I aimed. In five years, I have missed more deer with a crossbow than I did in three decades with a vertical. Guess I'm just not a techie. My wife and I estimate I have killed around 300 animals with a bow. I won one tournament and that was because nobody else could shoot. I have never been a 12-ring shooter. However, I was perfectly comfortable taking a running shot if the conditions were right. I can't recall ever trying to stop a deer or any animal that not going faster than a trot. I saw no need to and still don't, even with that cussed X-bow. Obviously, for me, a back tension release was a severe handicap.


Final word on the back tension thing. If you are not having trouble with your current setup, why change? If you have TP, go for it.

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Old 01-11-2012, 08:49 AM
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Scribe what's kiss?
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:02 AM
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Scribe what's kiss?
Keep It Simple Stupid....KISS. I believe the less equipment you have on your bow, the less you have to lose, drop, forget or have malfuntion.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:23 AM
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I prefer JSTSB, personally...
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(just shoot the sona $&@$!) haha ive said that one a time or two myself Tator !
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:37 PM
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Choot Elizabeth Choot! That says it all.
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You guys are hilarious!
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:52 PM
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Actually I was going for "Just Shoot The Stupid Bow"! lol
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:50 PM
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Obviously Scribe you are an accomplished archer with many kills and i agree if it aint broke dont fix it.However every archer should develop some form of a shot sequence with the goal of his form being repeatable shot after shot.Al Henderson said is doesnt have to be right as long as its repeatable.
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