Personally I'm not a big Muzzy fan...groupings were always scattered. Never cared much for expandables because my luck go out just as I shoot that big buck. I've always shot thunderheads but I just got turned on to Redhead Blackouts and they are AMAZING. They fly as straight as field points and i recently shot through the shoulder of a doe with a complete pass through. Best part is they are $20 for a 3 pack
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