I had a carbon express 350 double richochet off of a truck and car fender a few years ago. it was a solid sounding contact. I checked the shaft for any kind off damage both visual and audible. I did not find any damage and put the arrow back into the inventory. I also had a richochet off of a twig this season that stuck the broadhead into a good sized sappling, which I had to cut out with my hunting knife. It also showed no evidence off damage and was returned for further use.