After a long day ended up getting the son a Bear Lightsout model bow from Cabela's. The package bows had too much junk equipment on them, so I built the bow up using Rip cord rest, sims products, Cobra Boomslang sight and all the other little necessities. I shot the bow and on the second shot centered the arrow through the first one. The indoor range is only 8yds. Cabela's gave me the two into one arrow to take home as a trophy. This is the only free thing Cabela's has ever offered me! If son dosen't appreciate Dad's present, I can set the bow up to fit me as a back up bow.