Another Poacher

[ronn]

Thanks for the links Joel. What I read was 1 in 1000 poached bucks is to sell the antlers. Poaching big bucks seems to be the trend and $$ wasn't the main reason. Ego was the main reason. I always felt like the OR case is more like the norm. Sad state of affairs no matter how you slice it.

[ronn]

Turtle I think you are right. Like I said I'm guessing that about 38% are "slobhunters" and thats just way to many. I think a lot hunters just don't take the time to think about the image they present and therefore, wrongly, are seen as what a hunter is by a non-hunter. This is why I try to challenge guys to think outside there little block of woods and look at hunting objectively and as a bigger picture. Well anyway thats what I try to do.

Oh and thank you I try. I'm gaining more insight to the guys here and have no problem with any.

[Turtle]

Hard to say for sure, think the dedicated organized poacher is few. But like Bruce said the rule benders or like you said the slob hunters , I think make the majority. A person sees that buck of a lifetime just outside legal time, just across the boundary line, day after they use their last buck tag, whatever. They just have to take it. They want to be the one that bagged the monster.

[Turtle]

I would even go as far to say your slob hunters would be higher in numbers. I think the concept that ego hunters is the majority may be misleading in the fact that those seeking recognition or bragging rights are more likely to get caught, when the slob goes unnoticed.

[joel the signman]

most poaching centers on money and ego.

Although many believe that ego is the primary motivation for the modern Hawkeye poacher, money is frequently acknowledged to be a key factor -- but it's not likely that many poachers are selling venison. Gather a bunch of deer hunters together to discuss trophy-deer hunting, and someone in the group will soon claim that poachers kill big Iowa deer to sell racks for thousands of dollars to wealthy out-of-state buyers "The biggest racks I've ever seen have sold for no more than $25,000," said Chief Joslin. "Only one out of thousands of bucks (antlers) is big enough to bring a five-figure sale, and that's not a lot of money."

The temptation of making money by selling a big rack can cause some strange behavior. "We actually had a deer stolen from the back of a locker in Tipton last year and the head cut off," said Craig Jackson, supervisor for the IDNR's Southeast District Conservation Law Enforcement division. "No matter how little the poacher gets for antlers, it seems it's enough for them to continue to do it. sounds like money over ego to me,then theres these guys The ring operated out of Lorain County and killed multiple deer, mostly for bragging rights, according to the ODNR. Either or dont matter they are still criminals and should be treated as such.LOCK EM UP

[Turtle]

Iowa's Deer Poachers: Stealing The Trophies


"I think (egos) are the biggest reason people violate the law," Suchy said. "They see a big deer and bend the laws to take it."

Linn County conservation officer Aric Sloterdyk agrees. "A lot of people want to show off a big buck. The temptation is great," he observed.

Seemingly legitimate hunters also poach in other ways. Some illegally shoot a deer with a shogun or rifle, and then put their archery tag on it, making it "legal." Some buy a deer tag for their wife or a non-hunting friend and fill that tag themselves by shooting another buck. Others shoot deer during the legal season, but before or after shooting hours. Some of these poachers justify bending the law by contending they are reducing so-called "deer problems."

Yeah I know Joel, I read the whole article and they're are parts that support each person's different points of view

[Turtle]

Although many believe that ego is the primary motivation for the modern Hawkeye poacher, money is frequently acknowledged to be a key factor

Even your post says many believe ego is primary but money is also a key factor. So yes it's sometimes about money, but that's not the primary reason.

[joel the signman]

i agree calm dowm

[Hunting Man]

I'll compromise at 50/50 ego vs money! Ego doesn't allow the slobs to buy that new rifle or pick-up but if you all think ego runs the mindset of a poacher of big rack bucks, ok for the majority! I hear ya!

[ronn]

Like I said either way sad state of affairs.