- Bow Hunting
|Kansasdoe ||06-30-2013 11:39 AM |
Long axle bow vs. short
Is it easier to draw a long axle bow than a short axle? Or do you think it makes any difference? I'm short so i have always liked the shorter axle bows. I've also got a weak shoulder due to an old injury so my Max draw weight is 42 pounds. We were shotting with some relatives this morning and hubby insisted I pull back his cousin's Rally. Holy cow at 45 pounds it felt like nothing. The Rally is 37 inches axle to axle and my Craze and PSE Stiletto are alot shorter at 28 inches and 29 3/4 inches. Just thought is see what everyone's opinion is on this. Maybe the Rally is just easier to draw. Maybe it was just me? I don't know. Or maybe I just ate my wheaties this morning.
|Hunting Man ||06-30-2013 02:18 PM |
Well there are mixed views on this subject. It has more to do with the cam design and brace height, distance from the string to the riser, I believe than anything else. The more the cam is elongated away from a circle/round wheel design the more aggressive the draw cycle will be. It is also true that single cam bows draw easier than two cam bows. With all that said i believe that a lot of new bows are so improved that a short bow with a mild cam that shoots relatively quick can be found for you. Many years ago there was support that longer bows were more forgiving for shooters that didn't have the most perfect form. I shot a 38" bow at that time. Improvements come every year that help shooters like yourself to find bows that can be shot well. Another item to check out is, if legal for you, and with shoulder problems like me, I have switched to a crossbow with very good results. It keeps me in the woods for archery season. Hope this helps some.
|Kansasdoe ||06-30-2013 07:01 PM |
My PSE Stiletto shoots pretty quick for a short draw bow so im very happy with it. I was just curious about the difference. They did make crossbows legal in Kansas so i would like to get one to try. I think a crossbow would get my kids out in the woods after deer more too. They just don't quite have enough strength to use a compound bow on deer yet. A crossbow would let them be able to hunt during our early archery season when the weather's not to cold yet.
|gfdeputy2 ||07-01-2013 05:23 AM |
I was in the same boat
My Hoyt Rampage XT is a 32" ATA is very fast accurate & light but with the very aggressive cams I have to be in top shape to draw it had a shoulder injury 2 years ago & almost gave up that season like HM stated it is mostly the cam design that affects how hard or easy it is to draw not the length of the bow
longer brace heights affect this also shorter brace heights will be harder to draw less forgiving on a "not so good shot" but are generally faster
I would look for a bow with a brace height of around 7" & mild cams
don't get stuck in the name game get a bow that is comfortable for you & try as many as you can
|tomlightfield ||07-01-2013 07:32 AM |
This past month's Field & Stream magazine has a really good article that addresses some myths and misconceptions about bows. 3 guys took either 4 or 5 top ranked bows and put them through rigorous testing as to the effects of longer vs shorter, longer or shorter stabilizers, fall away vs biscuit rests, brace height(this was especially interesting) effects of bow length on ease of draw, etc. I looked on their website for the article but couldn't find it, my magazine got tossed by mistake. Perhaps those of you not electronically challenged like myself(that would be everyone) could find it there, or look at a news stand for a copy. Best bow test I've seen where the effects of the different components are compared.
|tomlightfield ||07-01-2013 08:16 AM |
Yeah Dep, that's it, but like it says that's only 1 part of it. Better to get the magazine so you can read all of the comparisons they did. I'm pretty sure they cover K Doe's question. I went to a fall away rest also about three years ago, wish I would've got one that encapsulates the arrow, but this one is fine. I use a crossbow half the time, depends on the day(shoulder wise).
|gfdeputy2 ||07-01-2013 08:38 AM |
I did the same thing had a smart rest & that was part of by drawing issue during my shoulder problem so I upgraded to a QAD rest & absolutely love it.
from what I have seen & read it just proves my point it really comes down to comfort their groups show it no matter your setup the groups were all close enough that it really doesn't make a whole lot of difference in the hunting world IMO if it feels good to you & you become confident in your set-up that is what really matters with todays bows
|Hunting Man ||07-01-2013 01:04 PM |
That's the whole thing, find something you like, can shoot well, and is quiet. When I installed a drop-away rest my groups reduced big time. Nobody I hunt with ever used a bisket rest so I can't say either way if they affect arrow speed or any other negative impacts.
|gfdeputy2 ||07-01-2013 01:13 PM |
they claim you don't lose speed but the bristles are in contact during "take off" & they do tend to damage fletches mostly 4" vanes so how can it not have an effect on it
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