I hunt out of a climber. I got a Summit Goliath last season, which has a little more room than most climbers. It is a lot more comfortable and allows me to be WAY more patient and tolerable to stay on stand all morning, come down for lunch, and set up for the afternoon. I also do not climb as high during archery as I do for gun. During archery, I set up at about 20 feet. During gun season, I get up to dang near 30 feet. It probably (at least for me) depends on where you hunt. I mainly hunt a military base with lots of hunting. Not as many bow hunters as gun hunters, so the deer are may less finicky.