onehorse, I agree. We all know the poacher caliber is a 22 long rifle. Small calibers will kill the issue is, is it legal, moral, ethical? Of course not! I too have over 50 deer kills with many different rifle/caliber combinations and believe that the 243 is the starting point for youth/women and go up from there. I think the new 260 rem with a 140 gr bullet is a great rifle for a young hunter to start with.
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