all good points.i prefer a break action 209i went low budget.cva wolf with everything and a scope it was 180$ i thinkall i needed was powder i use pryodex pellets in 50 grain size i shot a 245 greenpowerbelt and 100 grains with a 209 primer .The cva is a good low budget rifle .those TC are real nice though no argument there 
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Now therefore take, I pray thee, thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me some venison.
Genesis 27:3 "The thinking deer hunter should mature through three phases during his hunting life. First phase, "I need to kill a deer." Second phase, I want to harvest a nice deer. And last phase, we must manage this resource so our children and their children can experience the grand tradition of good deer hunting." - Jim Slinsky
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