I just ordered the mountaineer for the dyna coat that the long range hunter does not have. I have a disc extreme now that I love but I am looking forward to longer range shots, mostly at the range. Most of my kills here happen between forty and ninety yards. I am looking forward to teetering at the range and getting it dialed in and maybe one day taking a trip out to a place where the shots are long and the Bucks are huge. Happy hunting.