Thanks for the info guys. I've got some rage 2 blades and a couple stingers in my quiver ready to go in the morning. I also found some muzzy 4 blades in the garage id forgotten about and im not sure how they compare to the 3 blades but I guess since I've got them I'll give them a try. I sure hope I have better luck than last weekend. I guess I'll get one if I just keep on trying.