Onehorse, I knew what you were saying and completely agree 100%! I haven't shot tho model 70 yet, too much going on right now but later this summer I will hit the range with it. The rifle came with a couple of boxes of shells and I'll sight in with them and then decide what to use. Onehorse the rifle came with a great custom made for the model 70 like new leather scabbard, anyone you know in need of one it's a great workmanship piece made in the 60's looks brand new. I don't know much about them but the top 1/3 can be removed as it's all hooked together with straps. Fleese lined too. I have no use for it and have no idea as to value.