Yeah, I would once again have to agree with a lot of what you're saying HM. I totally understand your position and the valid point you are trying to convey. My old buddy and I started taking his son with us in South Illinois when he was 7 or 8, finally let him carry and shoot his own gun at 12, but ONLY with one of us supervising. He's 45 now and by far is the most successful deer hunter I know. He should be on TV. Then came his son, same deal, no gun 'til he hit 12. This young man is now 20 or 21 and is also a very skilled deer hunter as well as a prolific college trap shooter. But anyway I still give Chris much credit and I'll leave the actual trigger pull issue alone.