For me the 180gr in a 30-06 is not my most favorable grain weight bullet. For many years I used only the 150 gr. Nowadays, I think I would move up to the 165gr. I rarely shoot the 30-06's anymore and it's a shame because it will harvest most game without problems. I do have about 3-4 full factory boxes of 180gr 30-06, Dad like them, that I would be willing to sell if anyone is interested, just pm me and we'll work something out.