This package I bought is considered a pretty good starting combination for a newbe in the sport. My son-in-law has never fired a ml but I think I can get him hooked and this will serve him for several years. I had to consider all aspects when buying for someone else. Traditions, I believe has really come a long way from their beginnings. I would not have trusted their products to a family member if I didn't think so. Would I buy one for me? Not ready yet, but BB's Vortek looks nice.