tc's machining, fit, and finish far surpasses either cva or traditions, or always have. we'll see what the move they made does to them. there are more custom type mls out there but you really pay for them. not many manufactures have as good of a balance between quality and cost as tc's.
frontier, if cva's are so darn great why in the world do you have to keep taking them apart, modifing them, and rebuilding them so they shoot as well and are as reliable as tc's out of the box? or in other words building them up to near tc standards yet still not quite reaching it?