What BB said, he and I poke some fun at each other but it is healthy humor and comes down to the Ford vs Chevy and no one will win the debate period! I don't mind debating a subject if there's something to debate. Bore butter is a good product, I have it in my ML box and use it a couple of ways. My guns are in perfect shape and not harmed in any way. I don't believe TC products are over priced in any way. I know if I want nice walnut its going to cost more than a polymer coated stock. In any gun, price follows quality. The debate has been one sided from the get go: use bore butter on your firearms and not on your bread, and the clear winner is DHC in a land slide!