Just went out to the barn to get some wire to wrap the cages and upon seeing the rats scatter and getting a look again at how huge they are I figured they wouldnt get out of it anyway. Put both traps in there and removed the food. I had 9 of the big dudes staring at me. Im out of 410 shells or I would have started blastin.. Didnt feel as safe shooting a 20 or 16 gauge. Dont care nothing about getting a bb back on a richochet.