well my first guy that said the triumph was on back order fell threw. he said he could not get it till oct. so i went to another guy i know and he said they were all on backorder too except for one that had not been seen on the market yet. it is a triumph with a camo stock and camo barrell. before i thought you could only get a camo stock with weather shield barrell. so i ordered it. paid him $475 tax and all. thats cheap. cant wait to get it. i guess it pays to know some folks with a dealers license. hope to get it in this weekend or monday.