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Old 03-29-2008, 06:27 AM
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Everyone here seems to have good points on many causes of why poaching occurs. The one thing we all seemed to agree on is it's wrong and we should be less tolerant of those that do. Unfortunately this seems to be an elite forum. Thought I would show some posts from another forum where a poacher seems to be more tolerated. A person's difference of opinion on why poaching occurs will never bother me nearly as much as a person who tolerates a poacher.
wtnhunt is actually the admin on other site.




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Originally Posted by huntinguide
what a shame hes an honest guy at least


I don't believe admitting to something 5 months later when confronted with all the evidence against you qualifies as honest.

Buying a license to begin with would of been honest thing to do.

Not entering in Big Buck contest would of been honest thing to do.

Admitting to something once caught red handed, not honest at all.




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Originally Posted by wtnhunt
Not trying to defend the guy or what he did, but did not see that information anywhere, is there another story on the same guy that tells this history of hunting without a license? Without more, I would not be so quick to cast judgement on another hunter not knowing more details.

Do not know the regs in Michigan either, but here you can hunt without a license if you hunt on your own land. Been many years that I have not purchased a license, and have hunted on our property, perfectly legal here. Also been a few times I have considered hunting other properties and looked them over during season while not having my license, determining whether or not I was going to hunt them before buying the license. While this guy not telling his side of the story to the public makes it look like he is probably guilty of intentionally hunting knowing he did not have his license, I do not know enough about the story other than what the article says to say he is anything more than someone who got caught violating a game law by not having a current license, which is far from being the worst of the worst in my eyes in regards to game laws, but was pretty stupid. Guessing none of us here have ever driven on expired tags or on a drivers license that was expired.


First two line
JACKSON -- Chris James of Horton pleaded guilty Monday to illegally killing a trophy buck in the archery season last fall.
James admitted he shot the 24-point whitetail before he purchased a hunting license.

That's what the whole deal is he admitted to hunting without a license. I didn't judge him a court of law did and convicted him on his own testimony.
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Yes, he did admit not having a license at the time he killed the deer, he is guilty of that, and there is no argument about that. Part of my reply was to the comment in the second quote. You are calling the guy a poacher and from the way it appears you are saying he had done this type of thing before. From what I got out of the article the guy was a hunter who had no license, reason not known, and made the mistake of thinking he could get his license after killing the deer and make everything all better. Why he had no license the day he killed the deer, who knows other than him, and YES it was wrong. Pretty stupid or negligent on his part not having his license in the first place, but hardly think when it comes down to poachers that this guy is in the same league as those who deliberately do not check in deer, kill more than their limit, spotlight, kill animals out of season, trespass and kill animals on land they do not have permission on, and etc. Guess defining a poacher is up to opinions, and yours here is pretty clear, which is ok as that is your opinion. Sorry for not jumping on the bandwagon here, but I kind of like to give folks the benefit of the doubt, and when not knowing all the details, I try to err on the caution side of things when it comes to this type thing and not be so quick to label someone.

Not excusing what the guy did, but maybe just maybe he had a logical explanation for not having his license, maybe for whatever reason he thought he did have a current license only to realize after killing the deer it was not valid, who knows, I certainly do not. I really do not think anyone would intentionally go out and kill a deer without a license with full intentions of checking it in knowing they could not, only to go and buy a license the next day. Sounds to me like a stupid mistake and he got caught and is paying for it. __________________
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Encyclopedia Earth

Poaching

Poaching is the illegal hunting, killing or capturing of animals. This can occur in a variety of ways. Poaching can refer to the failure to comply with regulations for legal harvest, resulting in the illegal taking of wildlife that would otherwise be allowable. Examples include: Taking without a license or permit, use of a prohibited weapon or trap, taking outside of the designated time of day or year, and taking of a prohibited sex or life stage.

It's not just my definition

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